Does anybody still drive 760s?

[SwedishBee]

wow chris.

[Crazychopstick]

That's right.

Hahaha, 240s rule!

[Turbeam]

Originally Posted by SquareD

There's a really nice ~90 760 wagon at the PNP. A cash for clunkers victim. 94K miles. Needed a new headliner, other than that, beautiful car. Sucks really, really bad.

We've got that problem here just now as well. You get £2000 against the cost of a new car for anything 10 years old or more that is still in use. Many 'classic' cars have suffered this fate, and once they enter the system the only option for them is crushing... shocking. I've seen some beautiful cars like this in my local breakers yard.


The £2000 seems most often to offset against the cost of a small cheap model. These people ought to be flogged.


So, there don't seem to be many non turbo 760's left with their original engines, even on a site like this. What chance then that there are any nice original 264's, 265's or 262C's surviving this long?

[dmortier]

This is mine, work in progress.

[dmortier]

Oeps no pictures.

http://users.telenet.be/cobravolley/...urbo/760_1.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/cobravolley/...urbo/760_2.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/cobravolley/...urbo/760_3.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/cobravolley/...urbo/760_4.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/cobravolley/...urbo/760_5.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/cobravolley/...urbo/760_6.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/cobravolley/...urbo/760_7.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/cobravolley/...urbo/760_8.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/cobravolley/...urbo/760_9.JPG

Also on http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3375387

[TXMatti]

Originally Posted by Turbeam

The £2000 seems most often to offset against the cost of a small cheap model. These people ought to be flogged.

So, there don't seem to be many non turbo 760's left with their original engines, even on a site like this. What chance then that there are any nice original 264's, 265's or 262C's surviving this long?

To most "normal people" out there who don't put any sentimental value to vehicles this is actually a good deal. You'll never get that much for the car as a trade in or direct sale through a newspaper ad. That was the case with many of the cars that got crushed in the states - remember that Maserati Biturbo that actually ran? The owner had been trying to unload it for $1800 for 6 months and no one was interested. He wasn't interested in having a lawn ornament and the feds were willing to give him 4500 for it.

262's have the best chance of surviving on the account of their uniqueness. 265's and 264's would have needed a hardcore Volvo freak taking them under their wing. To a normal person again they're just same old boxy Volvos that are expensive to maintain. I think the 760 V6 is about the most unloved RWD Volvo out there, too expensive for cheapskates and too fat & slow for performance crowd.

[Turbeam]

That is true.

In the UK half of the money comes from the government and the other £1000 from the dealer, so it is partly a dealer discount to boost flagging sales. The government say it gets older emmissions 'dirty' and less fuel efficient vehicles off of the road.

Mostly I have no beef with this plan as most 10 year old cars also are of no interest to me, but now and again a really special or historically important car turns up among the rubbish.

I've heard stories of dealers paying the full £2000 themselves to prevent them being crushed (and often making a profit) by keeping them out of the plan, but still a lot of nice cars have been cubed.

The truth is that many modern cars are only built to last 10 years anyway. They are not made to be easy to maintain beyond fluid changes etc. With parts and labour costs, it is now often better to scrap older cars with minor faults and replace them rather than repair for many people. In this way modern cars aren't unlike automotive video recorders or TV's.... nobody really repairs much anymore. Beyond 2 or 3 years old they don't really have any real value, as can be seen by how readily insurance companies write them off with minimal damage. They have been described as throw-away cost minimized basic transportation devices.

This was not the mentality when many of these old Volvos were built. In comparison they are quite easy to work on, simple,better built and less likely to suffer from 'programmed obsolescence' with longer production runs with less changes. It might make short term economic sense to scrap them in this way when they could easily be saved, but it still seems a great shame to me.

I can't imagine in effect trading an immaculate Verdigris metallic 964GLE (albiet with a geabox fault) plus £6000 against a little box of Korean built crap, but that was the source of one of my engines!

[TXMatti]

Well the 964 owner probably saw it as "I can pay 3000 quid today for a gearbox rebuild, and find out next week that the engine is conked out - or I can just finance 6000 and have a brand new car with a warranty". Just like you do with a TV, dishwasher or any other appliance. This will continue until the interest rates go through the roof and no one can afford to finance anything anymore.

Wasn't it about 10 years ago when they started talking about how they could recycle only 25% from an old car and new cars were now designed to be 80% recyclable. That's all well and good, but cars didn't magically become 50% cheaper in the meanwhile so that you could afford to just toss 'em.

[Turbosteen]

Originally Posted by dmortier

This is mine, work in progress.

Hey Didier, wist niet dat jij ook op tb zat
Mooie 760!

PS: Ik heb 2 jaar geleden je 16VT gekocht

[deratomicdog]

Here's my 84
Ignore the stupid grin on my face, I had just bought it.

[hockey930]

I rocksore the 760
most of the time you can see it like this


Ocassionaly it does this

[240T man]

Originally Posted by 25psi

I've got a 90' 764, only thing that sucks about the 90' in particular is they had a one-off set of taillights that almost always are faded and crumbling. Luckily the 90-92 740 lights fit perfect which is what I have on mine now.


Other then that I've got the 960/S90 dash, IRS(not sure whether to count this as a plus or minus, not enough is known about it really), luxury goods, aluminum hood etc....and the 90+ b230ft.

Wanna sell it?

Been looking for one unsuccessfully for god knows how many years. Basically since I totalled mine in '02.

The IRS is a massive plus. The solid axle cars do not handle nor ride anywhere near as well.

[dmortier]

Originally Posted by Turbosteen

Hey Didier, wist niet dat jij ook op tb zat
Mooie 760!

PS: Ik heb 2 jaar geleden je 16VT gekocht

Hey Filip,

Ja ik kijk hier regelmatig rond, maar post niet zoveel.
Een project die 760T. Een s90 neus, s90 bumpers, s90 sierstrips, Polarissen, dakspoiler, HOVA achterlichten, ... Een beetje te volgen op Cardomain, misschien later hier eens een post project openen.
Ik weet het wel nog, ik volg je project nog. Ik heb nog een 740 Turbo staan ook, jammer geen 16VT. Ik had laatst geboden op 2 die in België te koop stond, maar helaas...

Groeten,
Didier
PS.: Misschien in Engels posten voor de andere forumleden of privé, volvo700vereniging of op volvolvo.nl waar je project ook staat.

to other forum user, we will continue in English,Turbosteen has bought my 16vt accidented for his project.

[rallydallas]

Originally Posted by deratomicdog

Here's my 84
Ignore the stupid grin on my face, I had just bought it.

7XX are dead sexy in white and those are like my favorite wheels!! I'd have a stupid grin too 8)

Sigh... Reminds me of that awesome military-member-brought-over-from-Sweden blue 85 744 turbo I had in school, with those wheels and a 4+OD stick. 8(

[volvo_nut]

Originally Posted by rwturbo

my 87 760

I love this car!!

edit: that really didnt work out the way i wanted it to i kinda hoped that the pictures would show up here too. i guess what i meant to say was i love rwturbo's 760

[rwturbo]

Thanks man!

[swiftjustice44]

Originally Posted by Turbeam

To be honest, I don't consider a 760 turbo to be a true 760 as the 740 turbo was also available which was very similar but just with different spec/ trim level here.

Hmmm....try finding an 84 740 T!

[swiftjustice44]

My recently sold 84 760T...

[Pops122]

Gave this 90 760TI to my friend John for storing all my other other Volvo, I kept the snow tires just put them on my son's 740. Not bad nearly new snow tires mounted for $200.

[icyroadwarrior]

PURCHASED WITH 96k FOR 1900 HUNDRED. HAD 64k DRIVEN ON IT OVER ITS FIRST SEVEN YEARS AND ONLY 32k OVER THE PAST THIRTEEN YEARS. PUT SLICK 50 IN IT AND LOUD TURBO WHINE WAS NONE EXISTENT WITHIN 2 1/2 WEEKS, ONLY PROBLEMS, THE A/C NEEDS REFILL AND CC WAND IS BROKEN OPEN AND DOESN'T WORK. HAS SMALL GARRET 42 T BUT WINDS UP NICE AND QUICK AND GIVES ME THE UMPH I NEED FOR MOST PART. SINCE I CAN'T EVEN REALLY AFFORD GAS, I'M INTO HYPER MILING INSTEAD OF HI-PERFORMANCE FOR NOW, AND I'M GETTING 26.7 MPG COMBINED WITH THE SLICK 50 IN IT. I WANT TO MOD IT, BUT NOT TOO SURE WHERE TO BEGIN AND I HAVE TO STAY WITHIN CALI'S EMMISSION CONTROLS THIS IS MY 3RD VOL I HAD A '71 145 AND A '71 164, AND I LOVED BOTH (RIP). I WANT TO LOWER, SWITCH OUT NIVOMAT, 16'' PEGS FROM IPaiD, MAYBE ECU CHIP FROM HI-TUNE AND CAT, NEW ROTORS AND CERAMIC PADS, AND TINT, IS MY DD AND MAYBE OCCASIONAL AUTO-X. HAS B230FT "k" ENGINE.

[15A]

A 90 765.

[SwedishBee]

Originally Posted by 15A

A 90 765.

Your car is my inspiration.
I never got to see any pics of the back of your car.

[fastnet760]

I have a 1989 765 / 230FT. Just rolled over 320K KM (200K Miles)
According to stats 221,309 760's were built as opposed to 1,239,222 740's so they have got to be much rarer, esp the 765 wagon that had only 37,445 made.

[vvpete]

Originally Posted by Turbeam

To be honest, I don't consider a 760 turbo to be a true 760 as the 740 turbo was also available which was very similar but just with different spec/ trim level here.

Oh Contrare!
The 760 was the first offering of the B23FT, the first offering of the 700 series, and still the highest HP found in a 200/700/940 in stock form.
In '87-89 the 760 GLE Turbo Intercooler was offered with the Turbo Plus kit, larger Garrett turbo and intake, and was 180 something hp, and a MUCH better 760 than the one with the PRV dog motor. The only other car offered with this engine/T set-up was the 780 Bertone in '88-89.
The 740 was an afterthought to the 760, came later in '85, and never equipped and trimmed as the 760.

I looked at a 37k original miles '87 760 GLE Turbo IC I found on CL a few weeks ago. Very nice exterior, but the guy wanted too much for it, although the body and interior was near flawless, the car had sat many years, and engine was rough due to hose leaks and dry rot, a/c comp seized, but once I saw that it was one of the rare 760 GLE T+ cars, I really wanted it.

[JW240]

The 760 turbo here got the B230ET in '85-89'? it was 182 hp stock, with M46. with the A cam and 531 head it should be faster/better than a Turbo+ B230FT.