LSD diff for reasonable price

TurboDutch · 07-15-2020, 03:02 PM

https://racingdiffs.com/products/vol...OOrjACENuV9_Z8

Any one of you using such thing?

For dutch fb group we are currently doing groupbuy for this.

Looks and seems quite promosing!

culberro · 07-15-2020, 04:38 PM

Paging Harlard

Harlard · 07-15-2020, 04:53 PM

I put one of those in the E39 wagon. Will report back on how terrible it is, once some miles are actually driven.

blkaplan · 07-15-2020, 05:33 PM

Im confused where the clutches are?

Harlard · 07-15-2020, 05:54 PM

It jams the spider gears together, brah.

culberro · 07-15-2020, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkaplan

Im confused where the clutches are?

It uses the backside of the side gears and the diff case (or thrust bushing) as the friction surface.
Not the best idea as wear may be an issue if there's a lot of slipping from a large traction differential.
It also might not be that bad, as it's similar to the way VW 020 transmissions and a the "poor mans quaife" kit work. I had one for many thousands of miles with great results.

VB242 · 07-15-2020, 07:37 PM

Looks like the phantom grip I put I in my Matrix

Harlard · 07-15-2020, 08:32 PM

So how's that working out for you?

VB242 · 07-15-2020, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harlard

So how's that working out for you?

You talking to me? It was great, it did it's job until I drove over something and put a hole in the transmission. When it was replaced they did not replace the phantom grip as I couldn't find the receipt for it.

Harlard · 07-15-2020, 09:23 PM

Better than nothing is good enough for me then

TurboDutch · 07-16-2020, 02:21 AM

This one seems a bit better than Phantom grip because they have a shim between the actual diff and the spider gear.
So the wear should be a bit more spread or how to say?

I was quite happy to find these for our volvo's since the lunchbox diffs are giving people a hard time, locking when power off or unlocking on strange moments.
They seem to be more for offroading than to be a LSD against one tire fire.

So this might actually even work :D :D

dl242gt · 07-16-2020, 05:05 PM

I like how it fits into the diff housing so you don't have to mess with getting a tone ring to work. Just a bit less work to install is nice.

fatcatbestcat · 07-16-2020, 06:11 PM

Can't be worse than welding your diff, right?

TurboDutch · 07-17-2020, 05:06 AM

After a private message from dl242gt I've checked with the seller and they are willing to ship to usa for same conditions as Dutch groupbuy.

So should I also start a groupbuy thread here for these diffs?

TurboDutch · 07-18-2020, 02:10 AM

So seems like not to many people for a group buy then...

53titan · 07-20-2020, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboDutch

So seems like not to many people for a group buy then...

Whats the special rate?

crogthomas · 07-21-2020, 10:07 AM

Their website states that machining is required for some models. Is the Volvo one of them?

Harlard · 07-21-2020, 11:28 AM

No machining needed: https://www.facebook.com/31066449595...8136621544780/

esmth · 07-21-2020, 11:55 AM

seems scary to me to use the stock gears as the friction faces. I'm running a spartan lunchbox-style locker and it uses a similar locking process, except with the center pin driving two dedicated dog clutches together. (instead of the gears into the carrier.) It is a rough little bugger no doubt, but it leaves two stripes and that is what counts

Harlard · 07-21-2020, 12:03 PM

A stock diff is not worth anything. If you don't like it, take out the unit and pop a new pair of carrier gears on. Otherwise grab another axle for $100 and be on your merry way.

TurboDutch · 07-21-2020, 12:59 PM

Special price is 190 euro!

Edit: missed out on the term "poor mans quaife" really like it!
And yes I think you could see it that way.

TurboDutch · 07-22-2020, 10:38 AM

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showth...wpost&t=356069

Above link to groupbuy topic

Chuck W · 07-22-2020, 10:53 AM

An affordable option for a street car, perhaps?

I was looking into something to use on the 240 that is waiting to be built.

TurboDutch · 07-22-2020, 01:28 PM

I've been also looking for good options, until a friend pointed me on this. I think it will be exactly what we need!

John V, outside agitator · 07-22-2020, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboDutch

https://racingdiffs.com/products/vol...OOrjACENuV9_Z8

Any one of you using such thing?

For dutch fb group we are currently doing groupbuy for this.

Looks and seems quite promosing!

Looks like its the junk sold for a couple of decades in USA as "Phantom Grip"

Its just a big stupid spring thing that jams open diff side-gears into the side of the case..

You'll wonder what phantom took your money away when the diff wears out and all grip disappears like a phantom..

Shameless that people still sell these to unsuspecting victims

07-15-2020, 03:02 PM	#1
TurboDutch Board Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Nieuw en Sint Joosland	LSD diff for reasonable price https://racingdiffs.com/products/vol...OOrjACENuV9_Z8 Any one of you using such thing? For dutch fb group we are currently doing groupbuy for this. Looks and seems quite promosing!

07-15-2020, 04:38 PM	#2
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07-15-2020, 07:37 PM	#7
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07-16-2020, 05:05 PM	#12
dl242gt Happy playing the blues Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: S NJ, a suburb of Phila.	I like how it fits into the diff housing so you don't have to mess with getting a tone ring to work. Just a bit less work to install is nice. __________________ Dave, 1982 242 turbo. 338k miles. MVP coilovers and 3" exhaust. Flowed 405 with a V15. Cossie turbine housing with upgraded compressor housing. 90+, IPD remote oil filter. Some other goodness, too. Been lots of fun over 25 years. Restored in 2k. Now ready for a 2nd restoration. 1993 245 Classic, 430k miles, enem V15. IPD bars and chassis braces. Simons sport exhaust from Scandix. sbabbs ezk chip. Been a good road warrior. Genuine Volvo rebuilt leaky M47.

07-21-2020, 11:55 AM	#19
esmth Board Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: MA/NH	seems scary to me to use the stock gears as the friction faces. I'm running a spartan lunchbox-style locker and it uses a similar locking process, except with the center pin driving two dedicated dog clutches together. (instead of the gears into the carrier.) It is a rough little bugger no doubt, but it leaves two stripes and that is what counts __________________ 1991 244 LH2.4 M46 341k miles

07-15-2020, 05:54 PM	#5
Harlard Hurlurd?Harland?Bueller? Join Date: May 2007 Location: PDX	It jams the spider gears together, brah.

07-15-2020, 08:32 PM	#8
Harlard Hurlurd?Harland?Bueller? Join Date: May 2007 Location: PDX	So how's that working out for you?

07-15-2020, 09:23 PM	#10
Harlard Hurlurd?Harland?Bueller? Join Date: May 2007 Location: PDX	Better than nothing is good enough for me then

07-16-2020, 02:21 AM	#11
TurboDutch Board Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Nieuw en Sint Joosland	This one seems a bit better than Phantom grip because they have a shim between the actual diff and the spider gear. So the wear should be a bit more spread or how to say? I was quite happy to find these for our volvo's since the lunchbox diffs are giving people a hard time, locking when power off or unlocking on strange moments. They seem to be more for offroading than to be a LSD against one tire fire. So this might actually even work :D :D

07-17-2020, 05:06 AM	#14
TurboDutch Board Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Nieuw en Sint Joosland	After a private message from dl242gt I've checked with the seller and they are willing to ship to usa for same conditions as Dutch groupbuy. So should I also start a groupbuy thread here for these diffs?

07-18-2020, 02:10 AM	#15
TurboDutch Board Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Nieuw en Sint Joosland	So seems like not to many people for a group buy then...

07-21-2020, 10:07 AM	#17
crogthomas Board Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bracknell, UK	Their website states that machining is required for some models. Is the Volvo one of them?

07-21-2020, 11:28 AM	#18
Harlard Hurlurd?Harland?Bueller? Join Date: May 2007 Location: PDX	No machining needed: https://www.facebook.com/31066449595...8136621544780/

07-21-2020, 12:03 PM	#20
Harlard Hurlurd?Harland?Bueller? Join Date: May 2007 Location: PDX	A stock diff is not worth anything. If you don't like it, take out the unit and pop a new pair of carrier gears on. Otherwise grab another axle for $100 and be on your merry way.

07-21-2020, 12:59 PM	#21
TurboDutch Board Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Nieuw en Sint Joosland	Special price is 190 euro! Edit: missed out on the term "poor mans quaife" really like it! And yes I think you could see it that way. Last edited by TurboDutch; 07-21-2020 at 02:50 PM..

07-22-2020, 10:38 AM	#22
TurboDutch Board Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Nieuw en Sint Joosland	http://forums.turbobricks.com/showth...wpost&t=356069 Above link to groupbuy topic

07-22-2020, 10:53 AM	#23
Chuck W Board Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indpls, IN	An affordable option for a street car, perhaps? I was looking into something to use on the 240 that is waiting to be built. __________________ '78 264GLE '97 854 T5 (Manual swap/COP/16T/P2R brakes) '80 264GLE (B21FT/M46/MS) - SOLD '77 242DL (B21F/M45) - SOLD '75 245DL SOLD '85 244GLT DEAD '83 Tbird Turbo (2.3T/T5/MegaSquirt) My feedback thread

07-22-2020, 01:28 PM	#24
TurboDutch Board Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Nieuw en Sint Joosland	I've been also looking for good options, until a friend pointed me on this. I think it will be exactly what we need!

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