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Old 04-29-2020, 08:07 PM   #26
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Your car is perfect! is that og paint?
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Old 04-29-2020, 08:40 PM   #27
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Your car is perfect! is that og paint?
Thank you... it is original color, but repainted about 3 years ago.
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Old 05-01-2020, 01:48 PM   #28
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Got he Block back from machine shop today... i was a little sad I had to bore a perfectly good stock block... but already had the pistons and needed to bore the block only about .020 hope that doesn't ruin the integrity at all as i push 25psi plus through the block with a little nitrous.

looking for some advice on ring gap. any input?
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Old 05-02-2020, 02:01 PM   #29
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daang that's a clean car. I always thought it was a wagon though, huh. Anyway.. when you go to install the freeze plugs (since they're out), get the external retainers as well (or make some) so they can't pop out under pressure later. they have a habbit of doing that once replaced.

as far as ring gap.. large-ish.


somewhere between 20 and 24 (that's .020 and .024) for the top ring, and whatever the corresponding gap is for the second ring

got those from the the lower numbers on that page.. circle track and blown race
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Old 05-02-2020, 02:28 PM   #30
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He has the freeze plug retainers already!

Here is a good article with the same info linuxman posted.
https://www.google.com/amp/blog.wise...%3fhs_amp=true
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Old 05-02-2020, 09:34 PM   #31
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daang that's a clean car. I always thought it was a wagon though, huh. Anyway.. when you go to install the freeze plugs (since they're out), get the external retainers as well (or make some) so they can't pop out under pressure later. they have a habbit of doing that once replaced.

as far as ring gap.. large-ish.


somewhere between 20 and 24 (that's .020 and .024) for the top ring, and whatever the corresponding gap is for the second ring

got those from the the lower numbers on that page.. circle track and blown race

Right on... thank you Ken. I assembled the short block today. 2.5L is on the way.

had a question about the oil squirters... do you use red threadlock on them, or just install without any threadlock.
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Old 05-02-2020, 09:36 PM   #32
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He has the freeze plug retainers already!

Here is a good article with the same info linuxman posted.
https://www.google.com/amp/blog.wise...%3fhs_amp=true

Yep!! found those. I ordered new freeze plugs... I'm gonna install and put the keepers on over the freeze plugs so there are no mishaps.

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Old 05-02-2020, 09:44 PM   #33
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Anybody got any input on the turbo selection.... I have been running a Garret 3076 ball bearing turbo for about 2 years now... all installed on a 90+ manifold, but going to go with a nice RSI header and still planning on some High horse power...

what say you?

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Old 05-02-2020, 10:05 PM   #34
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A 3076 should easily get you into the "needs water/methanol injection" zone, and that is just silly for the street.
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Right on... thank you Ken. I assembled the short block today. 2.5L is on the way.

had a question about the oil squirters... do you use red threadlock on them, or just install without any threadlock.
honestly.. I don't recall, but I doubt I used threadlock.
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do you use red threadlock on them, or just install without any threadlock.
There are many grades of Loctite between red and nothing.

Red is binary; use it and forget it with the plan to never remove the fastener. If you like to sleep at night degrease and dry the threads on both sides and then use a medium or greater grade of Loctite.

Don't forget to reduce the spec torque accordingly for the lubricated threads.
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Old 05-03-2020, 01:30 PM   #37
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Anybody got any input on the turbo selection.... I have been running a Garret 3076 ball bearing turbo for about 2 years now... all installed on a 90+ manifold, but going to go with a nice RSI header and still planning on some High horse power...

what say you?

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how much power do you want to make?
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Old 05-03-2020, 01:40 PM   #38
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how much power do you want to make?
Hello friend... I'm hoping to make 500 to 600 HP with or without nitrous... I know i should have a better idea for overall HP but my focus in the long term is a 10.99 ET at the drags... I should probably weigh the car soon, and include other items like: I'm running an GM automatic transmision (700R4) with a 4000 stall converter and the rear end gear ratio is 391.

I'm still in the early stages of the new block build but I hoping to get some baseline testing in a month or so, and then lay down some projections.
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Old 05-03-2020, 02:53 PM   #39
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Hello friend... I'm hoping to make 500 to 600 HP with or without nitrous... I know i should have a better idea for overall HP but my focus in the long term is a 10.99 ET at the drags... I should probably weigh the car soon, and include other items like: I'm running an GM automatic transmision (700R4) with a 4000 stall converter and the rear end gear ratio is 391.

I'm still in the early stages of the new block build but I hoping to get some baseline testing in a month or so, and then lay down some projections.
The largest borg S200 SXE (s257sxe) would probably do it and AGP turbo has a 1.0 and 1.25 divided t3 backhousing available for it.

That or the smallest S300 they sell (s362sxe) which is also available with similar backhousing options...the s300 will also give you a bit more headroom where the 200 will be getting close to maxed out.

Don't know how much you're trying to ball out or how much you care about transient response etc...also, you're kind of in a tight spot with trying to find a turbo which flows enough to make that power and keeping a t3 footprint backhousing.
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The largest borg S200 SXE (s257sxe) would probably do it and AGP turbo has a 1.0 and 1.25 divided t3 backhousing available for it.

That or the smallest S300 they sell (s362sxe) which is also available with similar backhousing options...the s300 will also give you a bit more headroom where the 200 will be getting close to maxed out.

Don't know how much you're trying to ball out or how much you care about transient response etc...also, you're kind of in a tight spot with trying to find a turbo which flows enough to make that power and keeping a t3 footprint backhousing.

THanks for the heads up on the Borg turbos... I am going to have to take a look at those.
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Old 05-03-2020, 10:55 PM   #41
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borgs are good. what are you gonna do with the old turbo? shoot me an email.. lol
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Old 05-04-2020, 06:03 PM   #42
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borgs are good. what are you gonna do with the old turbo? shoot me an email.. lol
I'm probably going to ride the garret until the bearings fall off... lol but if you think it's not going to achieve my goal or help me on my way kenny..... I'm down to unload it and get something new.
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Old 05-09-2020, 06:47 PM   #43
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Ok... bottom end is all assembled.... as i wait for the shelter in place order to ease up (i need some help removing and installing the new motor) I thought i would mount the header in the engine bay and see what i needed to do to complete the installation. seems like it's going to be very difficult to get a 3" downpipe made.... kinda hoping someone has one they will sell or maybe there is someone with a jig that can make me one without my car? any help.. any ideas?

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Old 05-10-2020, 12:32 AM   #44
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I'd say but some 3 inch pipe and mock something up, mark it and get it welded.
Then test fit it figure out they did it wrong and try again
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It's expensive but I've used oval pipe in the past and it worked great!
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Old 05-10-2020, 12:52 PM   #46
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It's expensive but I've used oval pipe in the past and it worked great!
Did you use oval pipe for he downpipe? Iíve thought about oval pipe for
Some of the under car stuff for clearances but my car isnít that low. Iíd love to
See pictures of an oval down pipe though if you have any laying around.
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Old 05-11-2020, 10:51 PM   #47
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Scope CREEEP!

So what started off as just a bent rod on a project that was well sorted and running very well started a domino effect.... lol

the plan was just to build a stronger bottom end and continue my journey just enjoying what I'd build... but that soon turned into
1.) what if I make it a 2.5L (in the works)
2.) how about better exhaust... (RSI header being installed now)
3.) I wonder if my turbo is big enough! (still considering a bigger one)
4.) yoshifab order for new lifters (because it was cheap insurance) turned into i should get those new cams iv'e always wanted
and why not get a new kevlar belt and some ARP head studs too.. LOL

5.) Soooo... the newest add... MS3Pro.... I've always had small issues with the MS2 box... not having enough outputs, causing erarratic behavior at times, and not having as good of a boost control setup or having the ability to manage the methanol injection.... so out with the old and in with the new...

Finally... just venting, but what was supposed to be a simple upgrade has turned into a total project again... a car that i drove into the garage (albiet with a rod knock) is now all apart, and I'm going in lots of different directions, and just looking for some focus.

So the things that haunt me in my sleep..... am i taking on too much all at once, and will i ever get this car back together.... you know the porjects that get started here, and lots parts get purchased and dreams get made... I don't want to be just another one of the cancelled projects... It's one of the main reasons it took me 11 years to even start a project thread...

I will push on.
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Old 05-11-2020, 11:22 PM   #48
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Push on indeed, I cancelled my first engine swap, so the second time around I pretty much locked myself in with the car to get the drive to do it.

As far as taking on too much at once, ide say now (with the stay at home orders and such) is the best time to do it. An all out 2.5 16v build would suit the car well, amazing clean car that definitely needs to get back to terrorizing the roads
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Push on indeed, I cancelled my first engine swap, so the second time around I pretty much locked myself in with the car to get the drive to do it.

As far as taking on too much at once, ide say now (with the stay at home orders and such) is the best time to do it. An all out 2.5 16v build would suit the car well, amazing clean car that definitely needs to get back to terrorizing the roads
Thank you for the push sir.... I will keep the torch lit. sometimes though, wonder why i take on so much all at once... and occasionally i wish someone would come and just pick up the car and put a turbo LS in it for me..
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looks like I will have a MS2 and harness available pretty soon....
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