A big valve 8valve is better than a 16valve head for 99% of tbricks - Page 5

cosbySweater · 08-20-2020, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Harlard

I have nowhere near close to 8k on this engine. Let's feed it 30 PSI and E85 and see what happens.

Poof 280whp

Harlard · 08-20-2020, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cosbySweater

Poof 280whp

oldschoolvolvo · 08-20-2020, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dl242gt

I think it is Yoshifab that machines a cut down distributor for the 16v setup. That way you can remove the distributor and use the crab cap for best clearance.

Yes that is correct.
https://yoshifab.com/store/b21/23/23...tributors.html

Marvelous3 · 08-20-2020, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cosbySweater

Poof 280whp

Winner winner!

Markos Simopoulos · 08-20-2020, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dl242gt

I think it is Yoshifab that machines a cut down distributor for the 16v setup. That way you can remove the distributor and use the crab cap for best clearance.

they do but its not hard to DIY it or go coil on plug

JohnMc · 08-20-2020, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Markos Simopoulos

they do but its not hard to DIY it or go coil on plug

VAG coils even fit under the stock spark plug cover.

2turbotoys · 08-20-2020, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnMc

VAG coils even fit under the stock spark plug cover.

Worth it just so you can say vag while talking about your car.

JohnMc · 08-20-2020, 10:01 PM

Look out, it's the VAG COPS!!!

Miss Monika · 08-20-2020, 11:37 PM

Harlard · 08-20-2020, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnMc

VAG coils even fit under the stock spark plug cover.

Don't they blow out with judicious boost though?

culberro · 08-21-2020, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Harlard

Don't they blow out with judicious boost though?

Only if you get the old OEM ones from a junkyard. So basically what any TBer would do.
The updated replacement ones are a lot better. I’m waiting for Asher to come in here and tell use that they all suck.

Harlard · 08-21-2020, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by culberro

Only if you get the old OEM ones from a junkyard. So basically what any TBer would do.
The updated replacement ones are a lot better. I’m waiting for Asher to come in here and tell use that they all suck.

So the VW kids go for R8 coils because they are long and red then?

culberro · 08-21-2020, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Harlard

So the VW kids go for R8 coils because they are long and red then?

You talking about 1.8t or 16v VW?

JohnMc · 08-21-2020, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Harlard

Don't they blow out with judicious boost though?

HOOOOOOLD the horses, I was using Toyota COPS, not VAG COPS. Derped my mind.

Not nearly as fun.

They were doing fine at 24-ish PSI w/E85.

culberro · 08-21-2020, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnMc

HOOOOOOLD the horses, I was using Toyota COPS, not VAG COPS. Derped my mind.

Not nearly as fun.

They were doing fine at 24-ish PSI w/E85.

You got a part number on those Toyota COPs? I tried a few different ones but they were not having it.

JohnMc · 08-21-2020, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by culberro

You got a part number on those Toyota COPs? I tried a few different ones but they were not having it.

UF314? Something like that. They fit the 2ZZGE Toyota motor.

They're also 'logic level trigger - no need for a driver, no real need to sweat the dwell settings in MS, just run 12V/GND/TRG to them and let them figure out how to zap.

You have to lop off part of it - mostly the plastic flange (it's circular, a bit too wide to fit down in the Volvo plug hole all the way).

Harlard · 08-21-2020, 01:37 PM

Weird. I bought one of those to test and it stuck out way too far.

culberro · 08-21-2020, 01:37 PM

Many thanks! Those are definitely not the coils I tried using.

Edit: Harald, we will never figure this out...

GTJordan · 08-21-2020, 01:50 PM

I'm interested in COP options for my 16V also. Prefer they had their own logic.

Harlard · 08-21-2020, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Harlard

Weird. I bought one of those to test and it stuck out way too far.

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Originally Posted by culberro

Many thanks! Those are definitely not the coils I tried using.

Edit: Harald, we will never figure this out...

Could be that the cheapo coil I bought off Amazon for $16 could have been something not at all like advertised:

sbabbs · 08-21-2020, 02:15 PM

Ford triton V8 ones seems the right lenght. Anybody try those?

JohnMc · 08-21-2020, 02:24 PM

Here's a couiple of quick pics I snapped (the motor is just sitting in the garage until I get the urge to put it in the PV):

Harlard · 08-21-2020, 02:37 PM

Will try without the seal, brb.

JohnMc · 08-21-2020, 02:44 PM

I removed the sides of the palstic flange the seal sits on. That's how it can sit all the way down in the rectangular depression in the head.

There's a spring inside the coil tip that engages the sparkplug - once the coil goes on the plug it will go down a fair distance.

Still, it's hard to judge, but your coil looks a bit longer. Like it's the same 'basic' coil, but there's that spacer below the main body - holding the boot.

2manyturbos · 08-21-2020, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnMc

Here's a couiple of quick pics I snapped (the motor is just sitting in the garage until I get the urge to put it in the PV):

Hopefully, along with a roll cage. A lightweight rusty shell with primitive steering, brakes, suspension and insane HP. What could possibly go wrong?

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GTJordan Been here for too long Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edmonton AB	I'm interested in COP options for my 16V also. Prefer they had their own logic. __________________ 80 242- 2.5L 16V, NIW intake/exhaust, T5, Porsche brakes, short billies and Kaplenkhe suspension, Trutrack. Project Thread- http://www.turbobricks.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=324470

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sbabbs Board Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rushing Lane, Scappoose, OR	Ford triton V8 ones seems the right lenght. Anybody try those? __________________ 1988 245 White slicktop M47 Wagon! 93 b230f. LH 2.4 STS flat flywheel. 1990 745 B230FT Getrag JohnV flywheel 240mm clutch 13c A-cam 3.54 G80 548K 1991 740SE B230FT NPR Strut braces IPD bar A cam 550cc EV14's. 3.73 G80 M90 to put in. 1995 940 White racing wagoon. 13c m90 to put in

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08-20-2020, 10:01 PM	#108
JohnMc PV Abuser Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis	Look out, it's the VAG COPS!!!

08-21-2020, 01:37 PM	#117
Harlard Hurlurd?Harland?Bueller? Join Date: May 2007 Location: PDX	Weird. I bought one of those to test and it stuck out way too far.

08-21-2020, 01:37 PM	#118
culberro Ronald Culberbone III Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Portland, OR	Many thanks! Those are definitely not the coils I tried using. Edit: Harald, we will never figure this out...

08-21-2020, 02:24 PM	#122
JohnMc PV Abuser Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis	Here's a couiple of quick pics I snapped (the motor is just sitting in the garage until I get the urge to put it in the PV):

08-21-2020, 02:37 PM	#123
Harlard Hurlurd?Harland?Bueller? Join Date: May 2007 Location: PDX	Will try without the seal, brb.

08-21-2020, 02:44 PM	#124
JohnMc PV Abuser Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis	I removed the sides of the palstic flange the seal sits on. That's how it can sit all the way down in the rectangular depression in the head. There's a spring inside the coil tip that engages the sparkplug - once the coil goes on the plug it will go down a fair distance. Still, it's hard to judge, but your coil looks a bit longer. Like it's the same 'basic' coil, but there's that spacer below the main body - holding the boot.