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Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Germany
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![]() so i turboed my 87 240 unopened b230f 80k miles with a 19t its running 7.5 psi it has 118 whp in second gear and the dynograph dips at 4.5k to 5k but then pull to 6k like nothing happend and is so Rich that it wont go higher than 3.7k rpm in 3rd then it gets so rich they stopped the dyno run so it has orange top injectors 90+ manifold and the do88 bigpack intercooler its lh2.2 with ezk ignition. so how can i get it to run leaner? lambda is at .7 from 3.5k to 6k
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educator monkey
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: USA
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![]() Add more boost. 7psi is just a tease.
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Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Germany
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BRANDSCHUTZVORSCHRIFTEN!
![]() Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: mont, AL
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![]() are you using the turbo ECU and EZK?
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#5 |
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Germany
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![]() i am using the turbo ecu and ezk
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 4D space-time
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: San Clemente
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![]() Adding more boost isn't a solution if it is running super rich. You need to figure out why it is running rich.
Do you have access to a fuel pressure test kit to see what it is doing at idle and if fuel pressure goes up under boost? Do you have all the correct LH 2.2 pieces such as AMM (007) and are there no boost leaks between the AMM and the intake? Have you compared the look/color of the spark plugs to a chart to see if they have any clues? I assume the orange tops are similar flow rate to the stock turbo green injectors? |
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Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Germany
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![]() i dont have a pressure test kit
i have all the correct pieces no boost leaks spark plugs look normal i dont know about the green vs orange flow rate i will check the o2 sensor and the FPR then the AMM |
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Dann sind wir Helden
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 4D space-time
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![]() Also check the coolant sensor, best place to check is at the ecu, that way you can make sure your wiring is good too.
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cleveland, OH
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![]() Well ****. I just learned my new thing for the day. Never thought to check in such a convenient location hahaha
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BRANDSCHUTZVORSCHRIFTEN!
![]() Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: mont, AL
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![]() post a pic of the plugs if you've got one
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Owner: DeathWagon
![]() Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Montgomery Alabama
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![]() likely boost leak.. just saying.. check the idle hoses... or bad maf..
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#13 |
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Germany
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![]() the 02 sensor wire to the ecu was damaged only the insulation held the wire together also will a 9mm rod stock b230f hold 14 psi or what is safe and how much whp is the max i can safely have i have to race a mk7 gti 230hp dsg
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Swampscott, 01907
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![]() Well this just took a turn
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50 shades of beige
![]() Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Rockville, MD
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![]() 14 psi can be safe as long as your car is setup and tuned correctly.
Have a ****ed up tune or boost leaks or flaky other components. BAH BYE
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Single jingle
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Granby CT
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![]() I wouldn't feel bad about shoving 16 or 17psi through a skinny rod motor if it was running right. Probably still wouldn't beat a GTI though.
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#17 |
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Germany
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![]() a v16t Cam And aw71 With 15 Psi ist that closer to beating a gti
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 4D space-time
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Quebec, CAN
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![]() Only way you're going to beat that GTI is if your pour sugar in his gas tank...
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#20 |
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Germany
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![]() He is willing to do pinks But i only want to Race for 500
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#21 |
Board Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Swampscott, 01907
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![]() If he's willing to do pinks he knows something you don't know.
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#22 |
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Germany
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![]() nah i know that the gti is stock the guy doesnt want to get his hands dirty or break the car
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All idiot, no savant
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: The Netherlands, Europe
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![]() 0-100km/h for a stock Golf 7 GTI is 6,4 seconds (according to my Google skills). Very good response with the DSG etc, don't underestimate it.
If your 240 isn't overly heavy and have some basic mods to your +T it should get similar times to 100 km/h. Think a proper exhaust and making sure it just runs as it should. The DO88 intercooler is a nice touch and helps for sure. The main bottleneck is the stock turbo. Luckily you can swap FWD mitsu turbo's that look completely stock (for TüV) if you want, though you can get much better turbo's for the same $ but they need more mods to fot them. My 245 +T with a T3 at 7-8PSI is below 6 seconds 0-100kmh and it is a very very basic setup, nothing special and many things that can be improved. Close to 100K on the +T and it runs like the first day, don't worry too much about the engine.
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#24 |
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Germany
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![]() so install a wideband, boost bout 15psi v16t cam do88 intercooler 102 octane fuel lets see when i register the car if he still wants to race me he thinks mine only has 170hp but thats a stock b230f and 7.5 psi
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#25 |
Dann sind wir Helden
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 4D space-time
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![]() I would have a backup plan for transportation if you're racing for pinks
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