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Old 04-26-2020, 11:07 PM   #1
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Well it only took me 11 years to relocate to a country where I could find one that was rust free. I think



Just picked it up today, after following its' sale for about 2 months. Bought it off a towing company, story goes that it was abandoned 3 years ago at a burger joint, towed by the towing company and stored for 796 days at a cost of 20$ per day. With fines etc it wracked up $16,000 in fees so they yard tried to sell it to make some of the fees back. I paid a lot less for it. To me the lack of rust and it being relatively complete was everything.



It's the original b21ft in it I believe and the interior is shot to hell.

For some reason it has an agm battery in it, not sure if that's got anything to do with its' lack of spark.

Immediate plans are to clean the living daylights out of it and get it running and slowly restore it to its'original form, maybe with the addition of some bbs mesh wheels and the touring car spoiler!



My eldest has already noticed the extra pedals and "stick in the floor."



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Old 04-26-2020, 11:33 PM   #2
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Good score. Rust free until you find some when you take the interior out. I just scored a an 83 242t as well but this one has a minty interior(hard to believe, I know).
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Old 04-27-2020, 01:02 PM   #3
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I'm praying to all the deities that I don't find much rust, if info I'm hoping it's the scrape it out and por15 the living daylights out of it kind !
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Old 04-28-2020, 04:29 AM   #4
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Looks like you've your work cut out for yourself...

1) If you can, hunt down an extra fuel line that goes between the filter and the fuel distributor. Disconnect the line that's installed, and thread the spare line into place. Jumper the red and yellow-red wires at the fuel pump relay to cause the pump to turn on. Drain any old gas into however many jerrycans it takes to drain the system. Replace with fresh.

2) It kinda looks like the wiring harness may be toast. If that's the case, it might be a good idea to hit up Dave Barton for a replacement.

3) With respect to your interior, if you're going to stick with Volvo seats, try to find some velour seats out of another 242GLT or Turbo. Will be a lot better than the 1989-93 245 vinyl seats in there.
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Old 04-28-2020, 07:00 PM   #5
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Looks like you've your work cut out for yourself...

1) If you can, hunt down an extra fuel line that goes between the filter and the fuel distributor. Disconnect the line that's installed, and thread the spare line into place. Jumper the red and yellow-red wires at the fuel pump relay to cause the pump to turn on. Drain any old gas into however many jerrycans it takes to drain the system. Replace with fresh.

2) It kinda looks like the wiring harness may be toast. If that's the case, it might be a good idea to hit up Dave Barton for a replacement.

3) With respect to your interior, if you're going to stick with Volvo seats, try to find some velour seats out of another 242GLT or Turbo. Will be a lot better than the 1989-93 245 vinyl seats in there.
Sounds good and thanks for the advise, I'm going to need all I can get !

So doing little bits to it, breaks inbetween work bursts! Agm battery was shagged, bought the cheapest lead acid that would fit ! Spark is not the issue as far as I can make out. Expansion tank has a bunch of goo in it but the oil is clean. Full flush of the cooling system on the cards. Check the timing belt is still attached and it is but cracked to hell so that's on the list. Next to check is the fuel system !




A bit of dusting !


Did a bit of investigation of the ignition system, We have spark at the coil and spark at the plugs, well 3 out of 4 of them. Going to replace the leads, cap and rotor as a matter of course, hopefully, don't need to do a Hall sensor. This car seems to have the Chrysler ignition bits which are a pita I've heard



Amazingly, this came out ( I soaked them overnight) and it then fired !

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Old 04-29-2020, 10:28 AM   #6
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That car looks familiar... whereabouts are you in TX?
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Looks like the one that was on Facebook recently. Something about having a recent paint job and stolen flat hood. Might be wrong though.
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:20 PM   #8
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Yep it's the car off fb. I'm near Dallas a formerly Korea for ten years and Ireland originally when I joined this forum ;)
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Old 04-30-2020, 01:07 PM   #9
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Nice score, looks like a fun lockdown project. Definitely follow John242Ti's advice; he knows these cars better than most.

To expand on what he wrote, if you find yourself chasing weird electrical problems under the hood it is likely the engine wiring harness, which will be shorting and corroded in many places. The insulation Volvo used in the early to mid '80s cars degrades heavily when it's exposed to engine heat. Under the dash, those same wires probably look brand new. Follow them through the firewall and you'll see the insulation on individual wires is cracked and crumbling off. I chased my tail on an '83 DL for a few weeks before giving in and replacing the harness with an OE replacement, which was time well spent. Dave Barton sells aftermarket replacement harnesses but Volvo themselves sold upgraded replacements as well, so go with whatever you can find.
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Old 04-30-2020, 04:45 PM   #10
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Nice score, looks like a fun lockdown project. Definitely follow John242Ti's advice; he knows these cars better than most.

To expand on what he wrote, if you find yourself chasing weird electrical problems under the hood it is likely the engine wiring harness, which will be shorting and corroded in many places. The insulation Volvo used in the early to mid '80s cars degrades heavily when it's exposed to engine heat. Under the dash, those same wires probably look brand new. Follow them through the firewall and you'll see the insulation on individual wires is cracked and crumbling off. I chased my tail on an '83 DL for a few weeks before giving in and replacing the harness with an OE replacement, which was time well spent. Dave Barton sells aftermarket replacement harnesses but Volvo themselves sold upgraded replacements as well, so go with whatever you can find.

I've priced them alright after looking further under the hood, am I glad I put a battery isolator on it !

In some great news all the windows work and other electronics seem to be fully operational, brakes work great and not seized. So some saving grace!

It's got 178,000 miles so I'm really wondering what'll be waiting once I get the cash together for that harness and get it fitted !


For the interior I think it's a list cause on the front seats, the rear I'll recover and get some scrapyard recaros for the front. Seatbelts aren't great, frayed. So probably have to replace those too!

I've slowly started restoring the black trim with matte paint !
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Old 05-01-2020, 12:42 PM   #11
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20200430_200859 by V G, Flickr에서

More testing of the electrical system, the lights and indicators, wipers, fan and all interior bits do work which is grand. The Engine wiring harness is shagged so can't really progress without one of those.

A few pics of the underside from the past owner came through:

received_561692024691494 by V G, Flickr에서

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received_198519958132836 by V G, Flickr에서

The only bit of possible rust repair I can see so far, a little bit int he lip of the bonnet too!

received_332911207651974 by V G, Flickr에서


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a wee bit of surface stuff here too!

received_511146309805114 by V G, Flickr에서


Interior was nasty so making it more habitable, silicone greaed the sunroof runners lastnight after a good cleaning!
received_238114460534587 by V G, Flickr에서

received_131408048253802 by V G, Flickr에서

20200430_193631 by V G, Flickr에서

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Old 05-01-2020, 02:28 PM   #12
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that should clean up nicely.
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Old 05-01-2020, 05:24 PM   #13
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that should clean up nicely.
I really hope so a I'm so friggin happy to have a 242 sitting in the garage, can't imagine how cool it's going to be to drive it eventually!
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Old 05-02-2020, 10:02 PM   #14
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when a nice set of mesh alloys in 5x112 pattern show up ( that'll fit the benz) for $150 it'd be rude not to , I'll need adapters but they look good!

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Old 05-03-2020, 12:25 AM   #15
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Those will look great! What size are they. Great looking 242 too man.
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Old 05-03-2020, 08:37 AM   #16
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Those will look great! What size are they. Great looking 242 too man.
They're 15's and 5x112 not sure on et but will be running adapters with some spacering as necessary to make it work. I'm hoping there'll be no rolling/clearancing needed. The Benz was running huge 18's when I bought it and they went a bit mad with clearance!
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Old 05-04-2020, 09:56 PM   #17
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So this happened today !

20200504_191422 by V G, Flickr에서

20200504_200840 by V G, Flickr에서

20200504_195546 by V G, Flickr에서

drivers is totally borked, passengers side only has split seams on the base so may be useful for some other person I guess???

Screenshot_20200504-202306_Gallery by V G, Flickr에서

hopefully c30 seats fit :D
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Old 05-05-2020, 09:47 PM   #18
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So he drivers side fought me a little bit ut just a bit of clearancing with the sawsall required
20200505_185133 by V G, Flickr에서

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Sat them in for a quick eyeball to see relative height

20200505_200216 by V G, Flickr에서

Drivers side is electric so it took a bit of figuring out to get it into a half decent position - I'll wire it up eventually when I'm not airbag shy!


20200505_200307 by V G, Flickr에서

looks surprisingly well and fits grand. I'm 6ft, 3 and still very good position !


Tomorrow to home depot for some washers and longer bolts but it's a very straight swap. If I didn't have the tilt feature on the drivers seat mount it'd just bolt up direct like the passenger side!

I saved the headrests off the back seats that were in the C30 too which are a bit smaller, they might look better. I love modern volvo seats, nothing like them for comfort!

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Old 05-05-2020, 11:30 PM   #19
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I may have a spare B21FT engine wiring harness. Message me if you're interested.
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Old 05-09-2020, 07:50 PM   #20
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20200509_105137 by V G, Flickr에서

So scrapyards here are socially distant enough it seems, went out in 25 degree heat, ,masked, gloved and on a mission to get the various little pieces to get the interior and trim bits back in shape!

20200509_104907 by V G, Flickr에서

I knew they had a 240 and they had one with a camel beige interior like mine on the website but a dull navy interior one , regardless the plastics were in good condition so i got them and will paint to match laters!

20200509_131159 by V G, Flickr에서

My navy ashtray

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scored a later style grille for a later version - it doesn't fit but just in case i feel like a change eventually

20200509_132108 by V G, Flickr에서

Some of the aforementioned trim pieces.

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Got momentarily distracted
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Then I went on a quest, spoiler alert!

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20200509_105438 by V G, Flickr에서

I'd heard the 850 ones were easy to fit and it's the same one I had n the t5 years ago - I know how fragile the clips can be, yet these were immaculate!

$25 for the spoiler, $20 for the misc parts, some underhood stuff tooI went home happy !

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Old 05-09-2020, 08:09 PM   #21
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20200509_163015 by V G, Flickr에서

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This paint is great !

20200509_165152 by V G, Flickr에서

20200509_173907 by V G, Flickr에서

Mounting was easy minus the ten extensions I had to use to access the trunk lock bolts as it wouldn't open !

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For $25 I ain't complaining :D
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Old 05-10-2020, 03:43 PM   #22
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You don't waste much time! The car looks fairly clean and rust free for one that has sat so long.

You can treat the inside of your frame rails and the inside of most panels with Eastwood Internal Frame Coating. It just buys you peace of mind.
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Old 05-10-2020, 09:18 PM   #23
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You don't waste much time! The car looks fairly clean and rust free for one that has sat so long.

You can treat the inside of your frame rails and the inside of most panels with Eastwood Internal Frame Coating. It just buys you peace of mind.
I used to use waxoyl on my cars back home in Ireland and this will be having all the cavities filled with rust preventative. I've waited for one of these since I was a young lad.

We just bought our first house so I'm half killed getting that up to spec in tandem with the car. Tiling, decking, door and garage framing, gardening and painting. It's fun in truth but it's diverted some of the funds and the virus has only me working at present which is fun, lucky compared to most !

In truth I'm trying to figure out my next move. The wiring harness is utterly shagged around the turbo and firewall and I'm trying to strategize a bit.

Do I repair the wires and see if the engine is in any sort of running condition? 178,000 miles on it, clean oil, zero coolant, sludge in the tank and found an empty coolant bottle in the trunk.

Do I go megasquirt like I'd eventually want to with an unknown engine ?

Do I just throw a t5 engine in there like I had in my old 850 ?

Either way it'll be whatever's cheapest so figuring out what I've got on my hands and repairing the loom /throwing in a good used one is probably prudent.

That and my skills set is limited, I've only ever worked on old vw stuff and basic servicing stuff. I can learn anything , half the reason I got this car, a great opportunity!
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Old 05-12-2020, 10:42 PM   #24
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On the kjet harness, I wouldn't recommend trying to mend it. It will be crumbly where you can't see. Finding a second hand one is really the best option. I personally would buy the dave barton harness. Its not very much money. I bet the engine/trans is in good working order. At this point the engine would need seals & gaskets but that's easy. Kjet can run pretty well once its sorted. I was going to restore my kjet setup but there was too many missing parts to make it financially feasible so I will be going LH 2.4.
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Old 05-13-2020, 10:54 AM   #25
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Microsquirt it or LH EFI it, unless you just must have originality.
LH 2.2/EZK harness from Barton would be money better spent IMO than replacing Kjet harness. All of the rest of the stuff you need is junkyardable.
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