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Old 06-08-2010, 11:26 AM   #26
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Sweet score John! I definitely endorse a manual swap while you're at it.

Now you know what you must do. The 242 needs a new engine with a couple of extra cylinders.
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Old 06-08-2010, 11:53 AM   #27
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SWEET DEAL! Very nice, quite envious! That yellow looks great on the 850s
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Old 06-08-2010, 11:58 AM   #28
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He is planning on DD'ing it anyways.

And to contradict the 2.4 vs 2.3 statement, I have ran 19lbs on my 2.4liter... with a k24. And I have had spikes of 20+ on my 16t.
Is your current motor built? Don't you have some work done to it?

Either way, I'd rather go with a 2.3L for longevity sake.

Here is the VS write up on the 99+ motor swap:
http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index...-budget-build/

Your stock tune should work fine with the motor IIRC.
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Old 06-08-2010, 12:37 PM   #29
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On a stock car, the LPT bottom end with the existing 850 top end and computers/sensor arrangement makes for a real nice runner.

Fuel efficient, torquey, responsive...sort of like a +T or putting a B23 bottom where a B21 bottom went on a K-jet 240...been there done that. It isn't "correct" but it works, and it works right. LPT engines are dirt cheap and can be found in non-tired condition more easily...this is important when shopping with used junkyard stuff...it is well...used.

Rebuild the head when doing a motor on one of those cars, and be picky about the bottom end condition. JL is familiar with those too. 200K and most of the turbo whiteblocks are all worn out if neglected. The breather system also likes regular attention if cheap oil is used.

One LPT +850 top and all accessories done that way on a stock 850 is still going 160K later just fine. The car was hit and examined again. Nothing seemed overly worn and it held up as well as any 2.3. I wouldn't dispute that a 2.3 is the stronger motor. I know that the LPT 2.4 works fine and holds up if done right too though.

They are definitely a real nice improvement for a driver. GL with it. Freshen it up nice and it will do well, especially for reliability and comfort.

I skipped over late volvos, I'm tired of volvos in general...for a driver anyway. I thought about it though. A break is nice. I ended up deciding that apart from the wagon feature, other brands have caught up and/or surpassed volvo in quality, reliability, comfort and safety. I may come back.
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Old 06-08-2010, 12:40 PM   #30
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Old 06-08-2010, 01:33 PM   #31
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Quoted from a VS thread for my own reference, regarding swapping a VVT engine into an older car:


http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index...d/page__st__20
one of the texans on VS made a cnc center to replace the vvt part of the cam gear. i searched, but the search over there blows chunks.
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Old 06-08-2010, 01:37 PM   #32
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Is your current motor built? Don't you have some work done to it?

Either way, I'd rather go with a 2.3L for longevity sake.

Here is the VS write up on the 99+ motor swap:
http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index...-budget-build/

Your stock tune should work fine with the motor IIRC.
No work done to anything engine related. Only bolt ons. No head work no engine work.

The John Ross "built" engine of doom was gone a long time ago. haha
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Old 06-08-2010, 01:38 PM   #33
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one of the texans on VS made a cnc center to replace the vvt part of the cam gear. i searched, but the search over there blows chunks.
Its like the 7th thread on the first member annoucement group buy page, no need to search for it.

http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index...ne-wantsagain/
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Old 06-08-2010, 01:51 PM   #34
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I just saw that before you posted it and saved the pics, that pulley would be easy for me to make. But it sounds like a lot of people are saying you just need to remove the solenoid and make a blockoff plate? That's even easier. One guy even said he just unplugged the solenoid with no ill effects.

James, great advice! But I'd rather not crack this motor open, that opens up a whole laundry list of maintenance and rebuild items that I'd rather plug my ears and ignore.
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Old 06-08-2010, 02:21 PM   #35
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Cool. Well, good luck with it. I hear you on the put a motor in it and be done with it for a driver.

I've just seen lots of heads need work on those. Aluminum head rebuilders does a ton of them in town here and has great turn around time on them and doesn't seem to mess them up...guides, valve job, clean and surface and out the door and back on the car.

Many times a guy can replace the whole motor though. 850 LPTs are also out there and work well as a swap complete....
Yeah, you can mess with VVT gears and intakes, but at some point your time is worth something. Given one can choose from a T5 or LPT 850, that should be enough choices and makes the hardware line up easier and looks stock when checked out to re-sell the car (also important on a driver). That way you can still sell it when you want a newer nicer car.

Ideally, one would find a real nice mechanical 850 LPT or T5 donor with good oil and seals (98 and older 70 series works super easy too IIRC). Check and replace any seals and breather and put it in and be done. Timing belt is also very straight forward with the motor out of the car hehe.

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Old 06-08-2010, 02:50 PM   #36
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Stick with the 97 engine. Easier.
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:07 PM   #37
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Now you know what you must do. The 242 needs a new engine with a couple of extra cylinders.
Yup, V8 powar. Ha! No.
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:55 AM   #38
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:32 AM   #39
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I forgot to mention that the guy I bought it from was the first owner, bought it brand new here in Toronto. And although we salt the roads like crazy here and cars rust out in a heartbeat, I believe the car has spent most of its life in Seattle and Texas, which is why I can't find a spec of rust on it anywhere! The paint isn't perfect by any stretch, but it certainly passes the 10 foot test, even the 5 foot test, which is better than my 242. I think the trunk has faded or something because the spoiler is a brighter yellow and the trunk is more along the lines of faded butter. Ohh well, I'm still in love. And its filthy right now, so a good wash and wax could do wonders.
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:08 PM   #40
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:47 PM   #41
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Yeah I was actually planning on doing that before waxing. I did that to my 242 last year and it really made a huge difference.
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:55 PM   #42
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mm, how i love my t5R..
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Old 06-12-2010, 02:03 PM   #43
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I had to move it around the driveway today and I was impressed that it started RIGHT up on the first crank, then proceeded to sound like a blender.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:00 PM   #44
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This is awesome news John, welcome to the club...I agree with everything you say about going from the old to the less old. I remember how great the Vron was, but then once I got into the 850, there was no looking back as an everyday driver.
Things you must do...

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If you do nothing else...

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Old 06-14-2010, 10:13 PM   #45
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Down the road I will probably do the manual swap and minor upgrades. But for now I'm just looking forward to putting the absolute minimum time/money/effort into it to make it a nice driver, because if everything works out then in 2-3 weeks my brother and I will drive it across the country to Vancouver for the summer (Meg and Clara will fly).

Phil we will definitely have to hang out, as families! And of course you and I will have to run off and do a typical lame "yellow" photoshoot .
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:18 PM   #46
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lol @ yellow photoshoot


yay at coming to the best coast to visit.
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:30 PM   #47
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Totally agree...that would be so much fun to see you guys again...and see the little one!

If you are pulling the engine, putting in the manual at the same time is just such a no brainer...The only hard part would be putting in the pedal box, the rest is a freakin' snap...
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:32 AM   #48
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Looks like you've got things pretty well figured out. I might suggest that now is the time to do the manual swap, while the engine is out and such. However I understand with wanting to get it all in and together and simple and what-not. If it helps, I have a good clutch and PP along with a new TOB that I could have shipped to your door for $100.... A stock NA clutch and PP, but the one that came out of the 13.3 at 107 850 of mine without ever slipping

Otherwise, get the parts together for the manual swap slowly and sit on them until it's convenient. That is probably the most documented thing on VS (manual swapping).

Enjoy the car, shine her up real good! Yellow photoshoots FTW!!
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Does the car have an EGR or an air pump? You may want to check that the engine you pick up from the wreckers matches up. There are some variations in the engines for the Canadian market.
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Good question! I have no idea. I don't seem to remember seeing anything that jumped out at me and showed itself as either of those things, but I'll take a closer look. However keeping the intake and exhaust manifolds from this car, wouldn't that let me keep any accessories required too?
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