blyat
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- Jan 28, 2013
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- Portland, Oregon
So I've been battling this problem for the past 3 months.
A bunch of pretext: Ball joints, outer tie rods, and wheel bearings are still fresh and not loose at all. Steering rack doesn't have slop, nor does it leak. Zero play. Newer style all-in-one power steering pump and brackets from STS machining. Brakes are new, still lots of life left in them, doesn't vibrate under braking.
Vibration is definitely in the front, rear feels completely solid.
Strut mounts are solid kaplhenke spherical bearing ones, under some homebuilt coilovers with luxesteer roller bearing tops. All fine and not loose either. Struts are GAZ set at medium on 250lbs springs.
I swapped out the adapters for my style 5 wheels with hub centric 20mm model, with centering rings from adapter to wheel. The steering wheel started to shake. Checked runout on adapters, brake rotors, etc. Everything was within spec.
Took wheels to get balanced, found out they were all bent. Went out and got a different set of wheels, which are round. New tires, too. Still shakes, but now only at high speed.
Took tires to get rebalanced (again). Shaking got "better" but now it goes in and out even while maintaining speed. Wheels were confirmed by discount tire to be completely roadforce balanced.
With a little poking and prodding, I replaced the inner tie rod on the drivers side because it was worn out. Still shakes (still need an alignment, have one scheduled for later this week).
Went back in and found the gland nut on the same side had loosened itself. Went in and tightened it as well as a more thorough inspection of all the joints except for the control arm bushings. Still shakes.
Replaced the worst control arm bushing (passenger rear bushing) still shakes, but now a little worse between 60-70mph. Still intermittent, phases in and out, sometimes at lower speeds, sometimes not at all.
So far the only things left are the control arm bushing fronts, driver's control arm bushing rear, swaybar endlink bottom bushings, and an alignment. After that, I would have gone through the entire front end.
I'm at my wits end, and it's getting pretty frustrating dealing with this vague problem.
I've seen lots of threads with these phantom vibrations and even after more work than I've done, nobody seems to ever fix this (at least not written in the threads).
Anybody have any experience with something like this? Could a tire shop really just not balance out a wheel multiple times like that? Am I missing something?
Thanks for your help, TB!
Addendum: I've heard that it could be a bent or warped hub, but I would assume it would cause constant vibration at any speed, right?
A bunch of pretext: Ball joints, outer tie rods, and wheel bearings are still fresh and not loose at all. Steering rack doesn't have slop, nor does it leak. Zero play. Newer style all-in-one power steering pump and brackets from STS machining. Brakes are new, still lots of life left in them, doesn't vibrate under braking.
Vibration is definitely in the front, rear feels completely solid.
Strut mounts are solid kaplhenke spherical bearing ones, under some homebuilt coilovers with luxesteer roller bearing tops. All fine and not loose either. Struts are GAZ set at medium on 250lbs springs.
I swapped out the adapters for my style 5 wheels with hub centric 20mm model, with centering rings from adapter to wheel. The steering wheel started to shake. Checked runout on adapters, brake rotors, etc. Everything was within spec.
Took wheels to get balanced, found out they were all bent. Went out and got a different set of wheels, which are round. New tires, too. Still shakes, but now only at high speed.
Took tires to get rebalanced (again). Shaking got "better" but now it goes in and out even while maintaining speed. Wheels were confirmed by discount tire to be completely roadforce balanced.
With a little poking and prodding, I replaced the inner tie rod on the drivers side because it was worn out. Still shakes (still need an alignment, have one scheduled for later this week).
Went back in and found the gland nut on the same side had loosened itself. Went in and tightened it as well as a more thorough inspection of all the joints except for the control arm bushings. Still shakes.
Replaced the worst control arm bushing (passenger rear bushing) still shakes, but now a little worse between 60-70mph. Still intermittent, phases in and out, sometimes at lower speeds, sometimes not at all.
So far the only things left are the control arm bushing fronts, driver's control arm bushing rear, swaybar endlink bottom bushings, and an alignment. After that, I would have gone through the entire front end.
I'm at my wits end, and it's getting pretty frustrating dealing with this vague problem.
I've seen lots of threads with these phantom vibrations and even after more work than I've done, nobody seems to ever fix this (at least not written in the threads).
Anybody have any experience with something like this? Could a tire shop really just not balance out a wheel multiple times like that? Am I missing something?
Thanks for your help, TB!
Addendum: I've heard that it could be a bent or warped hub, but I would assume it would cause constant vibration at any speed, right?
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