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Old 01-19-2017, 06:04 PM   #626
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Have you guys looked at the new MS3 Pro Ultimate? 4 VVT channels.
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Old 01-19-2017, 06:48 PM   #627
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As it turns out a bloke in the old country is building an ambitious Disco2. He is using a Jag motor with Variable cam timing and a 3 phase hybrid electric drive. The reason he can do this is because HE DEVELOPS ECU's. As a side hobby it seems. Maybe you guys could discuss a few things? Dude looks like he knows what he's doing....
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Old 01-20-2017, 10:04 AM   #628
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That said, the EMUIV can handle 4 cam sensing and variable timing on all inlets and exhausts. That and the ability to control direct injection makes it unique in the aftermarket I think. But be aware that I am still testing it at the moment. If it is only 2 variable cams, then EMUIII and indeed a few other aftermarket units should be able to drive that
Straight from the developers mouth. It will handle 4 cams.
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Old 01-20-2017, 09:38 PM   #629
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I think we'll stick with the Link G4+T. Thanks though.
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:12 AM   #630
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:35 PM   #631
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Picked up a radiator and oil cooler combo on eBay for a song. It's a C&R nascar unit with PWR cores. These are very high quality and mucho dinero if bought new. The end tanks are enormous so they will get hacked off and re-made. Oil cooler is also pretty huge, might chop it down a bit depending on packaging constraints.



CAN-BUS keypad for the interior controls showed up (only took four months to get ).





Fitted the four tubes that span across the engine. These are the last tubes on the front of the chassis. They will be made removable after the entire chassis is fully welded to allow for engine removal. Jury is still out if the center point of tubes will fit under the hood, we'll have to see.
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:38 PM   #632
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CAN-BUS keypad looks great. Why'd it take so long to get?
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:52 PM   #633
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:49 PM   #634
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Something about that keypad annoys me. In fact, most controls on most devices nowadays. All it has is icons. No text anywhere. I hate that.


But, still. Great build guys. Imma gonna go yell at the clouds now.
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Old 03-02-2017, 09:38 PM   #635
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The supplier is was extremely flaky. They were awful at responding to e-mails and phone calls in a timely manner, if at all sometimes.

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Something about that keypad annoys me. In fact, most controls on most devices nowadays. All it has is icons. No text anywhere. I hate that.


But, still. Great build guys. Imma gonna go yell at the clouds now.
I'm not thrilled on the icons either. The keypad is designed for industrial applications so the icon selection wasn't very well suited to a car. Still, the price and feature set are so good that we were willing to overlook the cons.
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Old 03-02-2017, 09:54 PM   #636
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Something about that keypad annoys me. In fact, most controls on most devices nowadays. All it has is icons. No text anywhere. I hate that.


But, still. Great build guys. Imma gonna go yell at the clouds now.
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Old 03-03-2017, 02:38 AM   #637
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Which seller sold you the C&R unit?
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:32 AM   #638
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Slick looking panel. Buttons work ok with a gloved finger?

So a coffin hood to be able to fit the cross braces?!
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Old 03-03-2017, 01:33 PM   #639
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Which seller sold you the C&R unit?
Can't link since I'm on my phone but the username is "scruffy390". Looks like he has a couple more of them listed.

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Slick looking panel. Buttons work ok with a gloved finger?

So a coffin hood to be able to fit the cross braces?!
The panel is pretty sizeable. Each button is about 5/8" in diameter. Coffin hood is not on the books. Either a small hood lift or a mild bump in the hood will have to do if the tubes stick up too far.
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Fitted the four tubes that span across the engine. These are the last tubes on the front of the chassis. They will be made removable after the entire chassis is fully welded to allow for engine removal. Jury is still out if the center point of tubes will fit under the hood, we'll have to see.
I'm looking forward to the crawler suspension.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:18 PM   #641
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"Jury is still out if the center point of tubes will fit under the hood, we'll have to see."

Cut the point flat and plate it. Gusset the bottom as needed.
Don't weld any of the stuff yet, I'll bet you change it to fit around the intake.
In fact they both will need to get worked to fit around each other.
Or you can just cut a hole in the hood and do it "Weld Er Up" style! ;^)
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Can't link since I'm on my phone but the username is "scruffy390". Looks like he has a couple more of them listed.
Thanks. He's got some interesting stuff.
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"Jury is still out if the center point of tubes will fit under the hood, we'll have to see."

Cut the point flat and plate it. Gusset the bottom as needed.
Don't weld any of the stuff yet, I'll bet you change it to fit around the intake.
In fact they both will need to get worked to fit around each other.
Or you can just cut a hole in the hood and do it "Weld Er Up" style! ;^)
The tube configuration as pictured likely won't change. I iterated pretty heavily in FEM and those four tubes are kind of the "magic sauce" that makes the front suspension box stiff. Any other layout that gives more room for the intake turns the front end into a real wet noodle. Cutting the point down a bit is a possible out for hood clearance if that's all it needs. Any more will need a small bulge in the hood.

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Harness bars are fabricated and mostly welded in. Ideally they would tie into the same node as the tubes going back to the rear suspension box but the seat height drives the shoulder harness position and that's not negotiable. In any case I found that they don't add a whole lot of stiffness to the frame so it's not much of a compromise.

Also did a bunch of welding on stuff all over the chassis but that's not really picture worthy.
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Old 03-04-2017, 09:30 PM   #644
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Any idea how many feet of weld you will have into it when all done?
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Any idea how many feet of weld you will have into it when all done?
Did a really rough calc and on just the chassis it looks like at least 100ft.
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Old 05-01-2017, 07:17 PM   #646
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Hi there. Found this thread while researching for my project - I challenged myself to build a "Locost" (Lotus Seven Replica) and want it to be B8444S powered. Ironically in Brazil, which is where I'm from, this engine, while not cheap, is much less expensive than any other respectable small-block V8 and for being narrower than a 90 degreee V8, will fit into my chassis easier.
After reading the whole thread here I felt compelled to register to the forum and follow it because so much goodness and also it has already given me a few answers for my own project. To the Buchkas I can only say well done and congratulations for your craftiness and ability with various workshop tools and jobs. Mind blown by, for example, the bellhousing and various other stuff accomplished already.

Well, presentation made, I ask if you have any news for us regarding the build. Also have you considered going with the original Volvo ECU? Any ideas as to what parts that'd need? I'm thinking at least original ECU, loom, keys & keyhole, immobiliser antenna ring, not sure on the instrument panel (DIM)?

EDIT: Maybe also the chassis/body ECU (not sure whats the name, BCM I think)?

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Old 05-01-2017, 08:40 PM   #647
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I'm sure y'all are aware by now, but this project is super badass.
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I second that. Way out of my league. I'd be satisfied to get a B8444s to fire up and run in factory tune, outside of a P1 car (in my case, in my home-made Locost)...
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And this project just won not one, but 2 awards at Davis!
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